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Poster: CharlieMiller Date: Nov 6, 2012 1:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bad shows

5/16/69 is a horribly sloppy show.

This post was modified by CharlieMiller on 2012-11-06 21:27:30

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Poster: deadmax Date: Sep 28, 2010 8:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bad shows

What do you think makes it sloppy? Is it too much drugs? Experimenting with the music? Not wanting to play that day?

They are such consummate musicians that I wonder what makes a bad show a clunker?

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Poster: CharlieMiller Date: Nov 6, 2012 1:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bad shows

I don't know since I wasn't there, but I would guess that drugs and sound issues (not being able to hear each other due to poor stage monitors) had something to do with it. A lot of shows from that era were very sloppy. Some of the July 69 stuff is horrible, but some of it was amazing too.

This post was modified by CharlieMiller on 2012-11-06 21:27:46

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Poster: Skobud Date: Sep 28, 2010 12:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bad shows

A perfect example of the drug and sound issues working together to completely ruin a show is Woodstock....Total dogshit...Bobby looks so dosed during that show, his eyes look like they are going to literally pop out of his head. You can see the unbridled tension in his face...If anyone has not seen the footage from the Woodstock 40th anniversary bonus discs, I would highly suggest it. If nothing more than to see how badly they were capible of playing.....Im sure getting shocked every couple of minutes while dosed in front of hundereds of thousands of people did not help the performance either.

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Sep 28, 2010 11:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bad shows

I don't think they were consumate musicians yet. Phil was 3 years into the bass. Weir was a wip. Pig was a basic blues keyboardist. Jerry was really fast. And Billy was a monster. Somehow I have a feeling they weren't that far removed from the Acid Tests. I've read where they really loved the tests because they could play totally fucked up and go crazy and then decide to not play at all. And no one cared. When I drift back towards earlier years, I tend to hear a lot of mistakes and bad shows, but I go in knowing what I want - to stand in front of the blast furnace that I don't get anywhere else. Anyhoo, file this under imho.